Furthermore, between the time you finish your phd and the time you return to research after residency could be several years, so you would be very behind in terms of maintaining the skills required of being a good researcher. If that doesn't bother you, then that's great! Research focus for MD/PhD is more likely to lean towards basic research compared to straight MD.
This was in December, so decently late in the game to hit the MD only desk. The amount of exposure one gets to statistics and data analysis as a medical student is paltry, and while you learn enough to read journals and understand them, there's a huge gap between being able to do that and being able to construct a project and lead it from start to finish. 1 comment. I think a lot of people focus on the ending of the MD/PhD that they forget they spend 4 years getting the PhD for a reason. This is probably the biggest issue I hear about with MD/PhD programs. Recently accepted MD/PhD applicant here.
I'm friends with several of the MD/PhDs in my class, and all of them seem to be working on very solid, worthwhile projects that will take as long as a standard PhD to complete. If prestige, yes, people respect you a lot for doing it (if you're male - I'm female, the response has been 50/50 for me). In my opinion, the only benefit of doing an MD/PhD is the stipend. Press J to jump to the feed. One of my buddies is an attending and he was telling me most of the clinicians (and he's at a huge academic center where almost everyone is involved in some sort of research) they refer to the MD/PhDs as lab rats lol. MD/PhD is a very long road but the training and the tuition benefits set you up to be more likely to be successful (no guarantee you'll be able to make it as independent investigator, even then - funding has been dry and will continue to be dry). Some become CEO or other high level officials in startup companies. Having a PhD will significantly up your odds of being one of the people who gets it, though of course it guarantees nothing. they have to develop that skill set independently rather than the MD/PhDs. MD-PhD Discord (Applications, Trainees, and Current Scientists) 25. According to him, the MD only route (while you can in fact do research) doesn't train you well to do it. Another thing to consider after you get your education is where do you want to work? After working with her, I couldn't imagine ever needing a PhD to get where you wanted in research. A few things to think about: How competitive of an applicant am I?
Am I a humanities major? And aren't there even research residencies/fellowships for those who want to pursue a more research based career? Reddit's home for wholesome discussion related to pre-medical studies.
It's just a difference you can feel between the career and training between the two groups. For someone who loves research, doing a PhD alone is the best route. I’m now in an MSTP. And during those 4 years you learn a lot. ", "That's Doctor Professor Patrick to you !". I'm not going to comment on which is better or easier or whatever cause I really don't know, but I would imagine that's one of the main reasons to pursue an MD/PhD over an MD. What is the real benefit of pursuing an MD/PhD if an MD can still do research?
All I've seen online is that a PhD can run a lab but I've also bumped into an MD running his own lab. You can also find several competitive, external fellowships in the ProFellow database for graduate and doctoral study, as well as dissertation research, field work, language study and summer work experience. 26.
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Cookies help us deliver our Services. Yes and no. There are a number of programs which I and other applicants (SDN thread, discord server, and local friends) have heard nothing good nor bad from.
Also they were likely evaluating where I stood on the spectrum in question - something that I guess my prog, specifically, does care about. I met somebody recently who didn't realize this: not one of the people interviewed with was not a hard science/engineering major, unless they were applying for PhD in anthro or something, which there may be 10 seats in the country for. Learn all about applying to MD-PhD programs and get our expert tips for strengthening your application. That being said, even at top programs less than 50% of graduates take the academic medicine route. I think whether or not the students are pushed to graduation is extremely dependent on the program/PI. For MD it doesn't matter, and it probably helps to have a different perspective/higher GPA (not hating, based on statistics). Or someone who works at the CDC/WHO and might be well-suited for the job if he had pursued a postdoc in tropical medicine, or spent 6 years working with a particular virus and has a publication record to show for it? MD/PhD is a very long road but the training and the tuition benefits set you up to be more likely to be successful (no guarantee you'll be able to make it as independent investigator, even then - funding has been dry and will continue to be dry). In interview is another matter: some progs may have more of a thing for your willingness to say, point blank, “MD/PhD is the only/perfect path for me / I plan to re-apply if I don’t get MD/PhD specifically.”, Depending on how much you really want to do it / would be okay with MD-only, I’d recommend ticking the aforementioned box on all or at least most of your apps and/or applying to some MD-only progs. save.
Moreover, getting funding to pay for both your MD/PhD and getting all that training is a good deal if that's the career you want. If not, there are many other, probably better paths, to Rome. There are lots of jobs that getting this degree would make you more competitive and well-suited for.
I did research for a bada$$ MD who has labs all over the world and is a professor at three different schools (internationally). Sorry if this is naive and I'm not trying to knock down someone with a PhD. That's an interesting situation. Is an MD-PhD Program right for you? Do I have a decent chance at programs with good computational biology programs (Like CalTech/Kaiser)? The other con is that MD/PhD training is LONG. This got rather long. It is possible to do just be MD and do research, even to have your own lab, but it will still take several extra years to get there, especially to successfully apply for funding. If money, see above. Am I driven by the money/prestige? I will graduate with a 3.7 gpa and I have strong clinical experience and EC’s.
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